From Sky: A Response to Week Nineteen’s Response

Here’s the most recent video documenting DOOM and Bishop’s work on NEHRUVIANDOOM

Bishop Nehru is an interesting kid. I say kid because he is only 17 now. Yet, despite his age, Bishop Nehru is teaming up with mysterious and enigmatic underground legend MF DOOM for a compilation album entitled NEHURVIANDOOM which is slated to come out later this year. Nas, in his AMA, said that an artist he’d love to work with who he hasn’t yet is Bishop Nehru. There’s been so much buzz around this kid it’s crazy. It took me while before I bought into it and downloaded his two mixtapes, Nehruvia and Strickly Flowz. On a first listen I can’t say I was too impressed. I was more like, okay, kid’s alright.

When it comes to DOOM, who I’ve written about extensively on Rap Blog, Rap Blog, he had three up and comers who it seemed he was eyeing for future work. One was Earl Sweatshirt. DOOM had always been an idol to Earl and he got to meet his last year for the first time on a European tour and the video is gold. He nearly cries he’s so overjoyed. Even Nardwar gave him some DOOM gifts including an original cassette of Madvilliany. DOOM inspired a lot of Earl’s style. DOOM even ended up doing a track with Earl on a Flying Lotus tape when FlyLo was rapping under the Captain Murphy moniker.

The other was Joey Bada$$. Now, I don’t know how much Joey Bada$$ you’ve listened to, but he is very similar to Bishop Nehru. If the two of them had a track together I think you’d have a real hard time tell them apart. What did DOOM do? Well, I think there’s always been a desire from Joey to make an album with DOOM, but instead DOOM gave him a couple beats for Joey’s Summer Knights tape that came out last year. No album.

“Lemon Grass” and “Elder Blossoms”, both DOOM produced tracks, appear on Bishop Nehru’s first tape, Nehruvia, when Bishop was only 16. Sixteen! I mean, come on now. These beats are actually off of a compilation of DOOM’s Metal Fingered Villain beats called Special Herbs. What was it about Bishop Nehru that made DOOM say this was the kid he was going to make an album with? Well I don’t think that’s such an easy answer. When it comes to Nehruvia, there isn’t a single track on that tape that I skip when listening to it straight though, which I’ve done a lot recently. Also on Nehruvia you’ll find beats from J Dilla, DJ Premier, and even Madlib. That’s a pretty solid lineup of some of the greatest producers of all time. What attracted them to this kid?

Maybe it’s the fact that Bishop Nehru just sounds so good on those beats. His flows are solid, and for being only 16, I mean, that’s pretty impressive. Not quite as impressive as Nas one-timing “NY State of Mind” when he was 16, but pretty impressive. Maybe Nas sees a little of himself in Bishop Nehru. Both New York artists, maybe Nas is not only inspiring Bishop, but Bishop is inspiring Nas, hence the reason why Nas wants to work with him. At the same time, I feel like after listening to a Bishop Nehru tape or track, a listener might feel like he needs a little work. Get some experience under his belt. Which is exactly it! I feel like DOOM and Nas can both see the oozing potential in Bishop and they feel like they can bring the best out of him, while at the same time, brining out the best in themselves. NEHRUVIANDOOM is both a DOOM album and a Bishop Nehru album. Nas wants to work with Bishop. These artists, absolute legends, feel like they can too shine while making him shine.

MF DOOM and Bishop Nehru

It’s hard not to admit that Bishop has flows. “Lemon Grass” is a superb showing of that. Over a DOOM beat too boot! So here’s this kid who sounds so great on a DOOM beat, for a mixtape, for a 15 year-old. This tape, Nehruvia, came out in 2012. “Lemon Grass” was recorded when Bishop was 15. When NEHRUVIANDOOM drops Bishop will be 17 going on 18. Those two-three years might just be enough for him to turn around a drop one of the greatest albums of all time with one of the greatest emcees and producers of all time. Who knows, maybe even Nas will have a feature. DOOM is refining Bishop.

Ultimately, I feel that is why Bishop is so hyped lately. We saw what he could do at 15-16 and now we’ll get to see what he can do when he’s older and working with one of the most sought-after producers. I have to say that along with Jay Electronica’s Act II, (even Jay wanted to make an album with DOOM!) NEHRUVIANDOOM is my most anticipated album of 2014… or whenever we’ll get it. Bishop took to twitter last week and said we’re “extremely close” to getting it. We’ll see. DOOM fans know that could mean years. Either way, I’m hyped. You should be hyped. Everyone should be hyped. We saw what happens when dope producers get with up and coming emcees earlier this year with Freddie Gibbs and Madlib’s Piñata. It can be classic and GOAT, if you will. Will NEHRUVIANDOOM live up to the hype? We’ll just have to see.

From ‘Cole: A Response to Week Nineteen

You know how they say fashion is cyclical? I believe music can be cyclical. We’ll eventually come back around to the old Hip Hop standards that we adored in their golden age.

I feel like Bishop Nehru belongs in a different time. And, in that time, he would have had potential. But in the present age, it’s hard to find a place for him. I could see him rapping alongside Lupe Fiasco or the like. But not in the main mainstream, not (oddly enough) anyone like Kanye or Kendrick or Drake or Weezy. As out there as they all are individually, they still feel like they have a place in today.

Bishop Nehru

But that’s what’s beautiful about today–it’s not about catering to the mainstream anymore. If anything, he is lucky to have a way to find his audience that appreciates him as his self in the here and now–so he doesn’t have to wait for his time to come.

I definitely dig it, it’s just not as compelling to me as other things in the zeitgeist right now.

That’s all.

From Sky: A Response to Week Nineteen

First off, it’s undeniable how Logic takes the style of Nas, Em and Drake in those tracks. The Drake one especially is painfully accurate. Artistic plagiarism? I don’t know if I’d go that far. If that’s the case Hopsin needs to be locked up for jacking Em’s style on “Sag My Pants“. There are many artists that mimic other’s styles and flows. Think back to Dedication 5 and remember how Weezy did a lot of it on that tape. I even remember reading articles about how Tune’s flow was sounding more and more like Rick Ross. I think it’s part of the evolution on rap. There are really only so many original ways to say something. I’m not saying originality is dead, I’m just saying that, well, it’s hard to be original when someone already beat you to the punch.

Logic

For you next two questions let’s get deeper into Logic. Now, I’ve always been kind of a Logic hater. There were a few tracks of his I like when he first was coming up that I enjoyed, but never really fucked too much with him. On his newest tape that come out last year, Young Sinatra: Welcome to Forever, there was only one track I liked, “Ballin’ [feat. Castro]“. It’s not the only track I enjoyed, but the only one I’ve come back to again and again. The only one with replay for me. I feel like if you listened to that track you’d think he was jacking someone’s style in that track too… though I can’t quite put my finger on who. It’s a lot like Drake minus the singing.

Is it impressive? Not to me. To me it shows that he hasn’t found his voice yet. He’s still mimicking others. Think of the best of the best today. They’re original because they have their own styles and flows. I’m not saying Logic can’t find his own voice, I’m just saying he hasn’t yet, and being the parody guy isn’t a thing when it’s not serious. It’s like the guy who does impressions not to be funny. Is that art? I don’t know. Any rapper can replicate other’s flows and styles. That doesn’t make them good. So when it comes to the real that we’ve been talking about, and looking for in hip hop, this is not it. Real is the Nas who inspired Logic so much that he jacked his style. Real is the Eminem who inspired Logic so much that he jacked his style. And I can’t believe I’m gonna say this, but, Real is the Drake who inspired Logic so much that he jacked his shit. Logic is just mediocre. That’s why there isn’t the buzz around him anymore. People still bump his tracks, but there isn’t a huge following anticipating a Logic album. This could be because he’s on the fringe of frat rap, but that’s for another week.

Logic

I’m a Logic hater. He has yet to do anything that has really jumped out and impressed me. I don’t know if he ever will. The tracks you sent me were good. I mean, “Young Sinatra III” is the closest track to one with replay for me when it come to Logic. Now, if Logic wanted to be real, he’d combine those flows and styles, the Em, the Nas, the Drake and do it in a way that was Logic. They have to be broken down enough that when people listen to him they don’t say that he sounds like Drake or Nas or Em, but rather he sounds like Logic. He has not done that yet, in my opinion. Again, I don’t know if he ever will.

On a little parallel side note, think about how similar Ghostface and Action Bronson are. I mean, Ghost was famous for saying, straight up, don’t jack my style, and yet here’s Bronson pretty much doing just that. I mean the sound so similar. Maybe that’s why Bronson isn’t or hasn’t blown up. When I mean blown up, I mean like, radio play, big shows, household name. I think this is an example of why Logic is in the same boat.

But what do I know?